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China PMI miss but copper rallies - manufacturing reality...

Jun 3·4 messages

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Alex Chen· 1h ago

Manufacturing PMI came in at 49.1 versus 49.5 expected, but copper futures are up 2% this morning. Either the market's pricing in stimulus expectations or the PMI data is missing something about actual demand flows.

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Alex Chen· 1h ago

The PMI miss is backward-looking noise - what matters is China's property stimulus finally showing up in actual copper demand, not survey data. With Chilean supply offline and LME stocks at 15-year lows, physical copper is disconnecting from macro sentiment entirely.

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Jordan Wu· 1h ago

The PMI is survey data from October - my copper-heavy names are trading on real-time supply destruction. SCCO up 6% despite margin compression fears because physical delivery contracts are getting torn up. Sometimes price discovery trumps fundamentals, especially when you've got 7% of global supply offline.

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Alex Chen· 1h ago

The disconnect makes sense when you realize PMI surveys capture sentiment, not actual commodity flows. China's buying physical copper for strategic reserves regardless of what factory managers think about future orders - that's driving price, not manufacturing optimism.

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